Thursday, November 18, 2010

The Debate That Will Likely Never End



If you debate on a College Football Playoff you are firmly on one side or the other. As for myself I am in the minority who prefers the current system over a typical playoff. Sure the BCS has it's faults. They should lose the conference affiliation for starters. But it is a huge improvement from the process before it and it makes plenty of money for those involved. The following is a exert from a post I had on 11/10 of 2008.

Thank you Iowa. Thank you from saving the college football fans from Penn State being the sacrificial lamb to some elite team in the National Championship Game.I also want to think you Iowa from saving us from the constant chatter of playoffs in college football. I am sure by the end of the season the talk will return but for a couple of weeks we will be spared from the playoff conversation.
I am one of the minority who doesn't want a playoff. I feel college football has a playoff and it starts opening week. Win your games and you will be where you deserve at the end of the year. Please spare me the mid-major argument(Boise St. 06 Utah 04Marshall 99) schedule top tier programs in your non-conference schedule and you will be included.
For all the criticism the BCS gets it sure does do a great job of getting the best teams in the final game. I would argue that more than any other sport the College Football National Champion is the best team. Were the Giants better than the Patriots last season? Were the Phillies, Cardinals, White Sox the best teams in baseball when they won their titles? Every time mentions a playoff in college football they use the college basketball comparison. Perhaps more than any other sport the best team rarely wins the tournament. In postseason play the hottest team wins. More often than not the hottest team isn't the best team throughout the season.
A playoff would cripple the importance of the regular season. It is undeniable that college football has the most important regular season of any sport. Texas vs. Oklahoma was huge, Texas vs. Texas Tech was much of the same. Oregon State and Iowa knock of USC and Penn State both are considered major season changers. If we had a playoff both would have been meaningless. Unless you are a diehard fan of college basketball the sport has no social relevance until March. Yes, March captures everyones attention but the other 4 mos. or so are meaningless.If you don't believe me just look at the basketball ratings.
Playoffs would take away from exciting late season matchups. Ohio State vs Michigan(normally a big game) and conference championship games are the last games of the regular season. These games feature at least 3 of the top 8 teams in the country at a minimum. In many of these cases teams would have the luxury to rest certain players for the "playoffs" knowing that even with a loss they would be in the playoffs. Many college football fans feel this would never happen but a the first time a star player went down in one of these games a new trend would start.
Auburn 04'. Every argument has that one occasion when it show some weakness and this is my kryptonite. As we all know Auburn did what it needed to do in 04 and went a perfect 13-0. The only problem for them was the fact that USC and Oklahoma also had perfect seasons so someone had to be left out in the cold and in this case it was Auburn. What made matters worse was the fact that Oklahoma was torched by USC 55-19. Here came all the Auburn supporters claiming that the Tigers should have been given the oppurtunity against the Sooners and their request seemed reasonable. I feel Auburn's fate would have been the same as the Sooners. The Trojans 04' squad was one of the best of all time and the Trojans and Tigers had faced off the year before in Auburn and the Trojans won 23-0. Auburn also didn't help themselves with their lackluster performance against a inferior Virginia Tech team in the Sugar Bowl winning 16-13. This is the only example of a team having the right to wine about a non-playoff however this scenario has presented itself 1 time since the inception of the BCS in 98. Given the balance of talent all over the college football universe the chances of 3 quality teams running the table is becoming less and less.
The BCS will get it right like it always does. Just give it some time and let the teams decide it on the field. Sounds like a playoff to me.

I understand why people who support playoffs choose to do so. The definitive process of playoffs takes out the hypothetical and what if process of the BCS. A playoff certainly gives you the chance to play it out on the field. However, what makes College Football special to me is the week to week importance of all the matchups. I am a fan of one team however I spend countless hours on Saturday following what this team did and what that team did. Would I still do this if their was a playoff? I would like to think that my interest would decrease but truth be told I would still religiously follow the sport. What I am certain about though is that a College Football season is defined by a hundred different moments and every one of these moments change the entire landscape of the sport. You just can't have that same drama week after week with a playoff.

11 comments:

jesseward said...

Josh,

You have rehashed the same tired argument that everyone else has.

You can't prove any of the points you made in this post. Not a single one.

If you want an outright winner, have a playoff. Period. If you don't and want to take a chance on crowning the less than best team with the National title, then have a bunch of BCS games with only 2 of the best teams playing for the title.

/argument.

Thanks,

jess

Josh Coleman said...

And what exactly can you prove with your opinion. In this debate it is just opinion vs. opinion and neither of us can provide cold hard facts. Your thought that a playoff is a better way to determine the better team is laughable. I would argue that more than any other sport college football awards the BEST team with a title.

IDGE said...

I would argue that in 1999, Marshall was not attractive to alot of the so called BCS big boys...reason being, there was a fear that the little MAC school would come in and embarass them at their own stadium... And you can plead for the argument to be spared all you want, does not make it go away, and the biggest reason there is an argument is that there is a what if factor, and since there is no system in place to give a DEFINATE answer, the argument can't be won. The BEST team is the one who wins the game Burt.

jesseward said...

How can you possibly call this reasoning laughable?

You are comparing a mathematical equation that is full of flaws against whether or not a team beats their opponents when it matters most.

How is the latter laughable?

Are you prepared to make Jesus Christ your lord and savior?

Also, I'm not the one who drew up a 500 word article full of bullshit points, you are. The burden is on you to prove them, not me.

todd said...

the bcs is not 'full of flaws'. it gets it right way more then it gets it wrong.

Cane Tuckee said...

If it doesn't give a absolute champion all of the time, then by definition, it is full of flaws. One flaw which would not allow you to give an absolute in this equation constitutes full of flaws. In this case even 1 flaw constitutes many...

todd said...

how is a 16 team playoff flawless?

the computers or the ap still have to rank those teams and pick who plays in the playoff and who doesn't. i think a playoff bigger then one more game makes no sense and just creates other problems.

what about the team that finishes 17th? thats the same thing as finishing 3rd in the current system. as long as you are ranking teams and that ranking has a corrilation on who plays for the championship then some team is going to get fucked over.

this is why college football is just a peter measuring contest.

Cane Tuckee said...

I never said it was flawless. I don't even remember entertaining that thought. It's college football, not Jesus Christ...perfection is a little out of reach. Look at it this way, if it's 8,12, or 16 teams in a playoff, it still works better and gives a more concise result. Of course polls are going to be used to decide the top teams who reach the playoffs, that was never in question, unless you divide CFB into even numbered or as close to it conferences and mimic the NFL, then polls have to decide the rankings. There is no perfect resolution, only one that is better than the other.

Cane Tuckee said...

And I think it is safe to say that # 17 missing out on the playoffs is better than a # 3 who has the same record as #1 or #2 and gets screwed.

jesseward said...

Todd,

The point was that the system is flawed.

"full of flaws" is a hyperbole.

The system is current flawed more than would be a playoff system.

Stop being a dumbfuck and arguing meaningless side points and stick to the subject.

FYI. I am hosting a 64/60 pie eating contest. I've picked you as the favorite. Oh wait, I guess that means you've already won; no need for a contest.

Pussy.

Thanks,

Jesse

todd said...

not argueing side points, the way you were desribing it made it sound like the bcs was full of flaws while a playoff was flawless. this is not true. the playoff would just have different flaws. a team with 2 losses should be playing in the gmac bowl, not for a shot at oregon.

dont get the "pie" jab. kinda the same joke as the cheeseburger one. come on man, your 38 years old, you should have a better put down then "you eat pie, pussy."