Wednesday, June 23, 2010

In-N-Out The 64/60 Week 11



Though this week wasn't as dramatic as Week 10, three games were decided by two stats or less. While three of the contest did end in decisive fashion one was still in doubt come Sunday. These close contest are great for teams such as the Factory, Carp and Tude Smackers. All of which are struggling mightily but thanks to the overall league play one decisive win puts these squads right back in the middle of things. Once again the 9irons take the top honors and now hold a three game lead over the Dingers who just edged the Colonels in a battle for the 2 spot. Thanks to back to back decisive wins Prestige Worldwide has now settled into the 4 spot and hold a 5.5 game lead over the 41129ers and Stars who are 14 and 14.5 games back respectively. At the moment their is some distinct drop off from the playoff squads to the teams currently on the outside. Los Vonderheides currently holds the 7th spot but are now 8 GB from the 6th spot. BCFP, Carp, H&D, Tude Smackers and Rubber Duckies round out the cellar dwellars and all are within 7 games of each other. Several weeks ago I anointed both H&D and Rubber Duckies as dead and buried but after some impressive output and lack of separation from teams 5-10 a resurgence is certainly possible.

Game Recaps

BC Dingers 5 vs. Hendo Colonels 4. It was a heavyweight matchup as the 2nd and 3rd place teams faced off. The Dingers didn't have their best week but somehow managed Stat Wins in AVG and OPS despite totals of .249 and .706. Though the Colonels struggled in those departments they did manage to hit 15 HR and 58 RBI. It is quite a feat to hit 15HR's and yet still have a OPS below .700 but the Colonels managed just this. Even despite the offensive struggles and poor pitching the Colonels had a 5-5 game until Victor Martinez decided to get his first SB of the season thus a 6-6 tie in the stat resulted in a narrow win for the Dingers.

MVP- Neftali Feliz(even in a losing effort) 4SV 7K 0.00ERA 0.00WHIP 15.75K/9

Weekly Highs- Colonels RBI 58

Weekly Lows- Colonels AVG. .218, K 33, QS 2

Season Lows- NA


Rubber Duckies 6 vs. LeMaestro's 41129ers 5. Damn those pesky Ducklings are at it again. The Duckies have now won 3 in a row and 4 of 5. Though they are still in last place teams are starting to fear the man who pays no attention. With Strasburg pitching like Doc Gooden circa 1984 and Vlad Guerrero hitting like Vlad Guerrero circa 2005 this team has enough talent to win some games. Now this week perhaps wasn't the best example of their talents as the victory had more to do with ineffective play from the 41129ers. The 41129ers had minimal pop hitting only 4 HR's and driving in only 30 RBI. A OPS under .700 only added to the misery on offense. As for the pitching the 41129ers didn't have much success streaming this week as the team posted a ERA of 5.35 and a WHIP of 1.43 which sadly was good enough to get the W because the Duckies posted a WHIP of 1.53 with a winning ERA of 5.17. When you are in last place a Win is a Win so the Duckies will happily take whatever they can get. As for the 41129ers I am sure the front office is already tweaking some roster spots for this week.

MVP- Matt Holliday .435 4HR 6Runs 8RBI 1.480OPS

League Best- NA

League Worst- Duckies WHIP 1.53 41129ers HR 4, RBI 30

Season Worst- NA


Barboursville Stars 7 vs. Los Vonderheides 5. In typical Vonderheides fashion the pitching performed among the leagues best. Unlike most weeks however the Vonderheides sticks actually performed admirably. The only problem was the Stars bats finally showed up in a big spot. Like the Vonderheides the Stars have had some struggles this season with the sticks but this week the Stars posted a Run total over 50 with 12HR 45RBI and double digit SB all of these totals have been hard to come by this season and to obtain them all over the course of the same week was exactly what McClung had requested for Fathers Day. The fortunes reversed on the mound as the Stars posted a ERA of 3.47 with a WHIP of 1.17 but failed to earn a stat with either total as the Vonderheides featured some of the best pitching in the league this week with a ERA of 2.40 to go with a WHIP of 1.04.

MVP- Dustin Pedroia .522 HR 9Runs 5RBI 4SB 1.338 OPS

League Best- Barboursville Stars- Runs 52

League Worst- NA

Season Best- Stars QS 10-T

Season Lows-NA


Argumentative 9irons 8 vs. Bear Creek FP Factory 3. Though the score doesn't indicate it this contest came down to Sundays action. This Civil War belonged to the elder Coleman. The 9irons once again pitched effectively while once again the Factory imploded on the bump posting a weekly worst 5.64 ERA. This matchup was a perfect synopsis of the season for both teams. The 9irons won 5 of 6 pitching matchups while the BCFP's pitching was among the leagues worst. And though the 9irons offense wasn't dominate they did just enough to earn a decisive win and remain at the top of the standings. As for the Factory they produced on offense for the most part but seemingly every week they tend to struggle with one stat this week it was a .248 AVG. This one stat allows the 6-5 contest to become the 8-4 or 8-3 margins that this season has been filled with. The 9irons have now won 6 in a row while the Factory has lost 4 in a row and 5 of 6.

MVP- Hiroki Kuroda 1QS 17K 1.50ERA 1.00WHIP 12.75K/9

League Best- 9irons- K 82, K/9 8.86

League Worst- BCFP ERA 5.64

Season Worst- NA


Hell and Damnation 8 vs. Ohio River Carp 3. After last weeks heartbreaking loss Hell and Damnation finally ended their 5 game losing streak and broke into the W column for the first time since Week 3. Hell and Damnation didn't perform as well with the sticks this week failing to post either 40 Runs or RBI but their .249AVG and .728OPS luckily earned them a stat thanks to the ORC's .238 and .673 totals. Hell and Damnation didn't have the same trouble on the bump however. H&D posted a league low .2.36ERA to go with a .98WHIP and 8QS without resorting to the streaming. For the Carp their downfall continues they have now lost 5 in a row and 7 of 8.

MVP-CC Sabathia 2QS 13K 1.80ERA .93WHIP 7.80K/9

League Best- Hell and Damnation ERA 2.36

League Worst- ORC K/9 5.90

Season Best- Ohio River Carp SV 9-T

Season Lows-NA


Prestige Worldwide 9 vs. Tude Smackers 3. While everyone else seems to be struggling from week to week Prestige has been on fire edging opponents 25-9 over the last three weeks. Worldwide has vaulted from the 5th-7th spots to his current 4th spot during this time and he is among the upper tier of teams who have surpassed the 70 Win mark already. The Tude Smackers are another one of those squads who just can't seem to buy a win. Six straight losses have caused the Smackers to descend to the depth that last years champ certainly didn't expect. The Smackers join H&D and Ohio River Carp as the only squads who have failed to earn at least three Wins thus far. All three have 2 Wins on the season.

MVP- Derrek Lee .286 3HR 4 Runs 7RBI 1.122OPS

Weekly Highs- Worldwide HR 16, AVG .305, OPS .935

Weekly Lows- Tude Smackers Runs 33, SB 1, OPS .615

Seasons Best- Smackers WHIP .96

Season Worst- SB 1



Head Scratcher of The Week

Barboursville Stars drop Adam Lind. I know I have been relentless on McClung this season but someone has to take the honors each week. I have questioned the value of Adam Lind just a week ago on this very blog. I had suggested that perhaps the 2009campaign was just a fortunate season for the slugger. His struggles this season would certainly suggest that. In all likelihood Lind will settle somewhere in the middle. He should be a legit 80 RBI guy with 25+ HR potential. Since Lind doesn't have a lengthy track record it is a legit roster move to rid yourself of him but in a 12 team league with plenty of teams in need of a potentially big bat several teams would have jumped at the oppurtunity to take Lind off his hands. Bottom Line: Lind has more value on the trade market than he does by dropping him to pick up Kevin Kouzmanoff. But what do I know Mike who's in 8th place and 14 games or so out of the playoffs.

Pick UP Of The Week

Adam Lind Hell and Damnation. As I stated in the Head Scratcher. I don't feel as though Lind is the 40HR 100RBI guy from last year but for a team who is in desperate need of a big bat Lind has more potential than likely anyone who will come across the Waiver Wire over the course of the season. Best of all Lind was awarded to them at a low budget cost of $13.


Trade Evaluation

Los Vonderheides obtain Ryan Braun and Hedeki Matsui from the LeMaestro's 41129ers for Jose Reyes and Andrew McCutchen. I may be jumping the gun somewhat on this move but since I was their for the negotiation process I know that this trade was made on Saturday Night thus this trade will fall under the Week 11 Recap. It was my goal to get owners together at the Swing and Swim just for this purpose and finally as the clock struck 1:30AM or so a deal was made. Everett Lemaster is always one to shake it up and anytime you involve Ryan Braun in a deal you are doing just that. If the 41129ers Mission Statement is: "We will steal bases and score Runs screw HR,OPS and RBI who needs those." then the trade wemt as scripted. For the Vondeheides they are finally able to obtain a big time bat with power and RBI potential. This move signals a departure from the Maccabi Hebrewers and ushers in the era of the Vonderheides. We all know that Fucking Buck loved the long ball. Remember the Tony Barrow blast at state that took Buck of the bench in awe. Bottom Line: I gave Butch a hard time about this deal on the night it was made but I could tell by the sound of his voice that he was truly happy. In my opinion The Vonderheides got the better player and improved their overall team balance more than the 41129ers. If the Reyes/McCutchen combo can go for a combined 45/45 this season then the deal would be justified. I just find those totals to be hard to come by.

64/60 at the NFBC. Another Week another move forward in the standings. After bouncing from 1st to 4th and every between this week at the end of play on Sunday the 64/60 settled in at number two in the league and at number 30 in the overall. Once again it was the pitching that lead us this week while the offense put up respectable numbers across the board.

*My apologies for the delay. This was ready to go by the 8AM deadline on Tuesday but I mistakenly saved the post rather than publish it. If in the event your Tuesday was ruined because you didn't view the In-N-Out Post then I will write a post exclusively for you on whatever Baseball related topic you desire.

29 comments:

The Bopp said...

"The Two Escobars", was the first 30for30 doc that I've watched from start to finish so far. If anyone missed it, check it out even if you have no interest in soccer as it was extremely good.

IDGE said...

Just a real quick note about the Cornhole scoring debacle.... After looking on at least no less than 6 professionally ran sites by recognized ACA Members(Which I am now) and money tournaments, it would appear that there is no verbage for the 'bust' rule, meaning that going over 21 is not a official rule at all, more than likely picked up from the 21 of streetball fame...therefore, officially, the first to 21 rule instituted that night is the correct way to play...

jesseward said...

So who won? Does this change the standings?

Anonymous said...

2 quick questions

when is the football draft?

is the league PPR?

down for whatever cornhole rules that is decided upon.

if its first to 21 me and barker will never lose.

todd

Josh Coleman said...

We played a PPR league last year I was going to have a league meeting sometime in July to go over the scoring preferences. I am a fan of it but I know some owners didn't like it. We substituted Rec for Yards and not in addition to. As for the Draft August looks to be booked for me but during the Weekend of Aug 14th and 15th we can arrange something hopefully everyone can attend at some point that weekend..............As for the guarantee of victory throughout the season perhaps Barker will mail it again after playing 10 consecutive games....

Anonymous said...

i like ppr.

barker will for sure mail it in if you dont keep him focused. hes the oakland raiders randy moss of cornhole.

also how is the punt/kick return measured? yards & tds or just tds?

todd.

Josh Coleman said...

Last year we did a Defense/Special Teams for all Kick/Punt returns therfore you go by the teams numbers instead of the player. We also just did TD's for it last year and not yardage.

Anonymous said...

i like tds and yd for the player but i dont care one way or the other.

also quick note about the world of mma. fedor goes down. (not a huge surprise for me). submission rd. 1. werder. thus, brock v. carwin will be not only for the ufc heayweight championship, but now the number overall heavyweight in the world giving the ufc the number one fighter at each weight division.

holler if you hear me gilbert/jesse

-todd.

IDGE said...

Todd, Calling me out is not a very healthy habit, nor does it exhibit any practical sense...And since you are the nit-picking lil' cry baby who was correcting spelling and grammar,The dude who beat Fedor is named Fabricio Werdrum. Who, was ranked #9 in the world...hardly a slouch. Your probably the same breed of dick-bag who claimed after Tyson/Douglas that you weren't surprised by that either...Please.Werdrum is also a 2 time ADCC champion as well, and if you know anything about MMA you know that is quite a feat..You still know absolutely zip about MMA, and even less about Life..Matter of fact, Me and you, 64/60 MMA, We will make an Octagon in Burt's backyard...Otherwise, Fuck you.

Cane Tuckee said...

Todd, Calling me out is not a very healthy habit, nor does it exhibit any practical sense...And since you are the nit-picking lil' cry baby who was correcting spelling and grammar,The dude who beat Fedor is named Fabricio Werdum. Who, was ranked #9 in the world...hardly a slouch. Your probably the same breed of dick-bag who claimed after Tyson/Douglas that you weren't surprised by that either...Please.Werdum is also a 2 time ADCC champion as well, and if you know anything about MMA you know that is quite a feat..You still know absolutely zip about MMA, and even less about Life..Matter of fact, Me and you, 64/60 MMA, We will make an Octagon in Burt's backyard...Otherwise, Fuck you.

Anonymous said...

sorry on the spelling gilburg

didnt say werdum was a scrub so the tyson/buster metaphor is lost. if anything it makes my argument that he dodges top talent. just said ufc has the worlds #1 at each weight division. that is fact after the this weekend.

todd

brock 2nd rd KO over carwin

Anonymous said...

forgot one thing sorry.

i may not know anything about mma but i do know werdum was cut by the ufc. now hes #1 contender for your brand.

brock KO 2:10 rd. 2 over carwin

IDGE said...

For the love of god todd, I never said it was my 'brand' ... all I said was that It 'entertained' me more than UFC on average and that Strikeforce has some very valid world class talent, the UFC did not have a monopoly on the 'Elite' talent... jesus h. christ,'brand'??? you sound like a shitty WWE broadcaster...Further more, I have no problem with somebody who is the 9th ranked heavyweight in the WORLD,and has a better record against better competition than Shane Carwin being the #1 contender of any promotion after beating the RECOGNIZED #1 Heavyweight in the world...You are trying to turn this into some crusade for the UFC against Strikeforce... Douche bag, I like MMA, no matter what 3 letters or catchy phrase is on the card... And you keep putting your fight prediction on your postings..what the fuck is that supposed to prove? For the health of the UFC HVYWGHT Division, you should hope that is not the outcome...Lesnar will win, that I agree with...Still waiting on a response to the challenge...

jesseward said...

Todd,

You are a douchebag for even mentioning Fedor.

To the greatest MMA heavyweight!

Fedor would still crush Brock.

Oh, and I would love to get in on the 6460 MMA circuit; especially if it meant I could slap Todd in the face.

Thanks.

Jesse

Anonymous said...

carwin would beat overeem.

as far as the "challenge," i could think of about 900 things i would rather do then get into a cage, topless, and rassle around w gilbert. 1 of those is watch strikeforce.

jesse, after last weekend even you dont believe that. fedor has lost to someone that the ufc didnt want. also not worried about you slapping me. matter of fact, ive never worried about being slapped by someone. what a weird thing to say.

also guys please call me something other then 'doushebag.' its boring and ive heard it since grade school.

haters please continue hating. and have a good day.

todd.

Cane Tuckee said...

Point 1.) That calling out people for spelling shit will come back to haunt you on a weekly basis...And since you have without question been a douche bag for a very long time, I figured you would at least know how to spell it. I guess you are as big of a douche as you claim. Kudos for self-realization.
2.) Nobody ever said anything about "rasslin'" around topless. I would seriously doubt we could budget for a cage, mats, etc... make no mistake, by taking my challenge to you and calling it rasslin' is absurd. It would be me kicking your ass in coleman's backyard, not you and Joe Bennett dressing up in Katie's costumes and getting on a trampoline and grab assin' each other in your backyard.
3.) after Jesse does slap you, what seemed weird to you will make perfect sense. You act like a bitch, you get slapped. The light bulb will go off..
4.) Haters keep hating???? I guess it just goes to show that You were not responsible enough to handle pop culture.
5.) Back to your homo-erotic take on my challenge... If you are going to act like you are able to back up your smart ass mouth and continue to run it, when somebody offers you the chance to back it up, if your not a pussy, you take it.
In closing, since you douched up the comments section with you catchy lil' phrases, here is another one for ya, Fuck You.

Anonymous said...

the only reason i called out your spelling error was because you were refering to yourself as a great litterary mind while misspelling litterary. i figured a great litterary mind would appreciate a little irony.

dont understand how this esculated to violence but i assure ya im not a 'pussy.' jesse's slap and your topless, caged, sweaty roll around session doesnt sound like something im gonna run away from nor something im gonna waste gas money on.

the fact that you hated on the phrase about haters kinda proves my point. also it seems you have a hard on for my past career as a backyard sports entertainer.

the original arguement was that stikeforce entertained you more. i think if you are a real fan of a sport u watch the best. thats like saying the nfl is crap, arena football 'entertains' me more.

ufc has 68% of the top 50 fighters vs. strikeforce's 22%. ufc has the top fighter at each weight division. these are facts.

enjoy strikeforce while you can. the clock is ticking.

The Bopp said...

Do you all need to be put in timeout?...A wise man once told me......"Don't hate it, date it"....Words to live by, fellas... words to live by.

(I'm not sure how this pertains to the current argument....but it just feels right)

Cane Tuckee said...

"the fact that you hated on the phrase about haters kinda proves my point. also it seems you have a hard on for my past career as a backyard sports entertainer"

What was your point? That I made fun of you for saying stupid shit?? Congratulations, you blew my cover..Way to go Elliot Ness.

"but i assure ya im not a 'pussy.'"
Eh, jury is still out on that one...

"your topless, caged, sweaty roll around session"

I never once referred to it as such..that's now twice that you have..The closet getting a little too cramped?

" i think if you are a real fan of a sport u watch the best."

Thanks for defining "real fan" for us, I guess the fact that I watch a broader scope of sports I like and don't limit myself to just one selection of a said sport seems to negate my fandom.. Fuck me running, what a fool I have been..

"doesnt sound like something im gonna run away from nor something im gonna waste gas money on."

I can come there. I have a good job and a good automobile, I can afford the throw away money on gas that a trip between Rowan and Boyd County would cost..Times may be tight, but it aint exactly the dust bowl...

"enjoy strikeforce while you can. the clock is ticking."

Ummmm....Is this part of your imaginary crusade again? You know, the one you think that you are defending the UFC against Me and Jesse?? I Don't know how much more clear I have to make this... I LIKE THE UFC. I would be willing to bet that I watch and research it(UFC)more than 75% of America, I LIKE STRIKEFORCE'S entertainment Value,just because of the theatrics, Never said it was better, just said they had some world class talent... I am a fan of MMA, I watch ALL of it I can, not just UFC nor Strikeforce...

Sometimes, I really feel like I am speaking in braille to you...

Anonymous said...

your welcome for defining 'real fan.'

didnt literally mean that i cant afford a trip to boyd county. just saying fighting josh gilbert in someones backyard is a retarded reason for wasting gas.

not on a crusade. i just like mma and watch it all too. the ufc has a larger, better roster so it entertains me more. just saying your entertainment level shouldnt depend on fireworks and other gimmicks.

im happy you are a ufc fan. feels good doesnt it. finally we can share something.

Cane Tuckee said...

'just saying fighting josh gilbert in someones backyard is a retarded reason for wasting gas.'

This all depends on your pride and integrity as a man, cause lord knows there are more worthy things to waste gas on, like coming to Boyd County and playing Pool Ball and Wiffle Ball post the age of 12.Which I was all in for the Wiffle Ball,but I am just sayin'.. Like I said before, gas money should not be such a hindering factor, I've seen your car, not what I would consider a gas guzzler..I can loan you the cash.. And I dont think I would term it so much as 'you were coming to fight'..
"just saying your entertainment level shouldnt depend on fireworks and other gimmicks."
So you are saying that when you watched Pro Wrestling it was because of the legit athletic contests??? Theatrics are only half of Strikeforce's presentation, they needed a hook to be an alternative, they went that route..It's as simple as that, they could strip it all down and still have a good, entertaining product, but let's call a spade a spade, without that added niche, The UFC's bankroll, no matter how talented the roster of SF was, would steamroll the promotion.. America likes a bragger, and they like over the top exploits..we are a nation of glory hounds and we like those who are just as vain as we are at home on TV... It's a good business decision, and given time, it will pay off...and it will eventually appeal to the more casual viewer more so and being on CBS FREE TV helps.
"im happy you are a ufc fan"
Been one since the days of the original NHB/No Weight class tournaments and the SEG Ownership, But, as I have stated before, I am more a fan of MMA as a whole.. It does not matter if it is UFC/Strikforce/Bellator/WEC/WAMMA/ M-1 Global/ Dream Stage/ Old Pride/ The fucking Kumate, or Catch Club, Folk Style Amateur Wrestling/Olympic Wrestling/ or NCAA, I like MMA and Pure Legit Wrestling, and I like Pro Wrestling, I like COmbat Sports...Almost as much as Bruce Campbell movies and Captain Chaos.

jesseward said...

Todd,

Point 1)
You have man boobs. That means, by my definition, you are a pussy.

Point 2)
You said Strikeforce didn't have the elite talent the UFC has and your supporting point was that the Strikeforce had more tv host than top 10 fighters. This is obviously a weak arguement. Also, you supported this point before Fedor lost; which was the whole problem because Fedor was ranked #1. This fact alone precludes another organization from have a more elite fighter.

I think we all would NOW have to agree with you that, on paper, the UFC has the most elite fighters. Aside, attacking someone's preference for Strikeforce is ludicrous.

Point 3)
I don't want to fight you. You don't want me to fight you either. I just want to slap you in the face for being unreasonable.

Point 4)
Downplaying a physical confrontation by calling is a topless rassin match .... well I'm going to let you think about that. Go to your room.

Point 5)
Douchebag is still a funny term that can be used to insult someone. It is certainly funnier than calling you "something that contains the contents of another person's vagina which is unlikely to be wanted by anyone." Get over it. Regardless of how many times hey have been used, personal insults are funny.

How about calling you a shitsack? Is that better?

Point 6)
Chris. Please go back to Vern and Larry's place and research some more fantasy sports. The big boys are talking trash.

Jesse

Anonymous said...

jesse,
you seem to have up to the minute news on other mens chests since this is the 2nd or 3rd time ive read some 'man boob' arguement. please concentrate on womens chests.

thank you for agreeeing with me that ufc has the majority of top talent.

the more tv hosts then elite fighters comment wasnt acurrate, however it wasnt meant to be. little tounge in cheek.

me downplaying a physical confrontation w gilbert isnt a fear thing, more of a i have no reason to fight gilbert/not worth my time/i dont care enough/stupidest thing ive ever heard type thing.

shitsack is 40 times better then doushe.

todd.

Anonymous said...

gilbert,

i doubt that me fighing josh gilbert is the deciding factor on my pride and integrity as a man.

comparing mma to pro wrestling is stupid. they are 2 different things. please stop doing this.

disagree w ya on the free cbs thing. like i said i give strikeforce 11 more months. saying the ufc bankroll will streamroll other promotions is silly. the ufc has way more money then cbs? prolly not.

interesting you placed ufc first in your list of leagues. interesting.

todd.

jesseward said...

Shitty douche sack,

Nice one on the men's chest comment. Did you come with that all on your own? Gay comment? Seriously?

The TV host comment was your only support to your conclusion that the Strikeforce didn't have the elite fighters the UFC did. Tongue in cheek or not, you didn't provide any evidence so the TIC comment was your support.

Justify you backing down from Idge anyway you want. It's apparent to everyone but you.

" SpikeTV has distributed another ratings comparison press release in the wake of last weekend’s Strikeforce on Showtime head-to-head with the replay of UFC 113. The release states that Strikeforce garnered a 1.38HH rating with an average viewership of 412,000 viewers while also drawing a 1.39 in M18-34 and 1.2 in M18-49.

By comparison, the UFC 113 replay drew a 1.1HH rating on an average audience of 1.5 million people and drew a 1.2 in M18-34 and 1.3 in M18-49."

I very seriously doubt that a company with 412K viewers is going bankrupt unless they are managed by a bunch of Todds (I assume bankruptcy is what you mean) in 11 months. More likely is it that the UFC will buy Strikeforce.

Advise Column:

Find some facts, interpret them, draw some conclusions and present them in an organized fashion.

You will find this more effective than supportless claims like 'You are not scared of Gilbert.'

Jesse

Bull of the Woods said...

"comparing mma to pro wrestling is stupid. they are 2 different things. please stop doing this"

I don't think I ever compared the two to be equal, I was using pro wrestling as a illustration of you and your background, not saying MMA and the P Dub are the same, however, they are playing to a cross over audience, meaning that at least 47% of the MMA audience is pro wrestling fans. Strikeforce obviously plays to that niche, and, yup, so does the UFC, you ever watched Ultimate Fighter?? The 'promo' like real world esque confessionals, the vignettes showcasing the participants background, hmmm looks alot like character development, and the in-house drama and pranks, as well as the tirades and trash talking that is very prevelant on the show...seems to me that UFC is just as guilty of using a gimmick as Strikeforce is, and quite frankly resembles another certain product that would be produced by Virgil Riley Runnels himself. Just because the 'in-ring' contest isnt pre-determined does not take away that they are BOTH PRO WRESTLING SHOWS. I may even have been off on my estimate of the 47%, it likely is a larger cross-over audience. Now, there is about a 35% share of the UFC audience who are ashamed to admit they like Pro Wrestling and become angered when anybody references the two products being similiar or even one in the same, because they are afraid of being made fun of like they were in junior high and exposed for being a fraud. UFC and Strikeforce right now are doing a better job at putting on a Pro Wrestling show than the WWE is. This is the main reason I hate Dana White, he refuses to accept he shares the same fan base with Vince McMahon. Just because The Honky Tonk Man aint whacking people on TUF with guitars doesn't make the show not be a Pro Wrestling show..It is ..looks like a duck, sounds like a duck, well it's probably a field mouse right??????

Anonymous said...

i said the opposite of strikeforce's financial situation. they have money, or rather cbs does, and cbs isnt going anywhere. strikeforce's doom is staying power. fedor isnt superman and i think he will be exposed again.

if fedor (who is not even a champion) loses again, who's their man? overeem? shields? i doubt it.

sat. viewing numbers were good but that was undefeated fedor for the number one contender. strikeforces cash cow. hes human and strikeforce should be in panic mode.

The Bopp said...

1) Jessica...blow me

2) Gilbo...How long has AA been with the WWE? What is his role exactly?

3) Todd...Manboobs are nothin to be ashamed of...don't let'em get you down, tiger.

4) Everett...Miggy is available for the right price.

Cane Tuckee said...

Christina Aguilerra,
A Double has been there since the purchase of WCW's assets in 2001 by WWE, then known as WWF/Titan Sports. His, as well as any of the old timers you see coming down to the ring breakin up fights or getting into simular situations in the back are that of Producers, they used to be called agents. They help plan out matches and spots in matches, Arn happens to be the Sr. Producer on Raw, which means he is in charge. They also act as a liason to the office for the workers and vice versa...
Quick bit of sidebar here, WWE does not own WCW, they never bought the company and took on it's workforce and debt, they only purchased the intelectual property of WCW...WCW is still owned by Time Warner,however reverted back to it's original name of Universal Wrestling Corporation to handle any litigation and loose ends WCW had and to handle the various suits and insurance claims of former employees..
Hope this cleared up the status of Arn Anderson's current source of income and tax filings.(He files married with 3 dependents)